This week, I am joined by Giulio Boccaletti, author, scientist, and co-founder of Chloris Geospatial, to discuss his unconventional career path, from physicist to climate scientist to McKinsey partner to The Nature Conservancy’s chief strategy officer to writing his new book, Water: A Biography, we discuss his views on using technology as a force for good, especially for resource management, if we should take up biodiversity in the constitution, the danger of making environmentalism political, and why humanity must fundamentally change its relationship with nature.

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