S6 Bonus Episode — “This Used to Be Concrete”: Lessons from One of London’s Most Unexpected Pocket Forests with Adrian Wong of SUGi

December 28, 2025

I speak with Adrian Wong about transforming even the hardest, greyest landscapes into living microclimates.

Recorded in the heart of Tilburg—a Dutch city that has transformed from one of Europe’s hottest heat islands into a showcase of regreening—I met arborist Erwin van Herwijnen of New Urban Standard. We stood in the City Hall square, surrounded by paving stones and a few big trees. To the casual observer, it looked like any other plaza. But Erwin smiled as he gestured underfoot: “Right here, we can handle three and a half million liters of water.”

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