I speak with Jan Willem de Groot about why crowns matter more than tree counts, why most city trees never grow old, and how LiDAR and AI could help change that.
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November 9, 2025
Recorded in the heart of Tilburg—a Dutch city that has transformed from one of Europe’s hottest heat islands into a showcase of regreening—I met arborist Erwin van Herwijnen of New Urban Standard. We stood in the City Hall square, surrounded by paving stones and a few big trees. To the casual observer, it looked like any other plaza. But Erwin smiled as he gestured underfoot: “Right here, we can handle three and a half million liters of water.”